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		<title>By: Richard Lynn Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Lynn Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup!  The self-analysis isn&#039;t pretty, despite having &quot;the best interest of... that person at heart&quot;.

I guess the way we got around this, is that our three Business Analysts were also three of the four people who really worked on a lot of our parties and potlucks.  So it is a lot easier to be forgiving towards those who helped you have fun and a more fun-and-enjoyable job.  It was easy to get along with those you spent non-work time with at said parties.  The M&amp;M&#039;s and other candies on one BA&#039;s desk didn&#039;t hurt either.  (BTW: Our monthly potluck was an idea or &quot;Try This&quot; that we came up with at the end of one interation meeting, though others might do this in some kind of retrospective meeting, depending on the &quot;agile&quot; methodology being used--ours was a hybrid.)

PS.  Hope my numerous posts are not making me difficult for somebody out there, Laura included.  Thanks for the blog!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup!  The self-analysis isn&#8217;t pretty, despite having &#8220;the best interest of&#8230; that person at heart&#8221;.</p>
<p>I guess the way we got around this, is that our three Business Analysts were also three of the four people who really worked on a lot of our parties and potlucks.  So it is a lot easier to be forgiving towards those who helped you have fun and a more fun-and-enjoyable job.  It was easy to get along with those you spent non-work time with at said parties.  The M&amp;M&#8217;s and other candies on one BA&#8217;s desk didn&#8217;t hurt either.  (BTW: Our monthly potluck was an idea or &#8220;Try This&#8221; that we came up with at the end of one interation meeting, though others might do this in some kind of retrospective meeting, depending on the &#8220;agile&#8221; methodology being used&#8211;ours was a hybrid.)</p>
<p>PS.  Hope my numerous posts are not making me difficult for somebody out there, Laura included.  Thanks for the blog!!</p>
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		<title>By: OnerousEthic</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnerousEthic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, but as you said, just scratching the surface.  My experience is full of poorly behaved individuals in dysfunctional organizations.  Far too often, diplomacy is more important than insight.  People naturally resist change, and presenting ideas can be dangerous, even self-destructive.  Discretion is the better part of valor.  Unfortunately, IMHO, much of the challenge of business analysis is understanding office politics and treading lightly.  YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, but as you said, just scratching the surface.  My experience is full of poorly behaved individuals in dysfunctional organizations.  Far too often, diplomacy is more important than insight.  People naturally resist change, and presenting ideas can be dangerous, even self-destructive.  Discretion is the better part of valor.  Unfortunately, IMHO, much of the challenge of business analysis is understanding office politics and treading lightly.  YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Brandau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Brandau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is indeed an interesting way to create alignment between business and IT and a clear sign that ensuring technology solutions meet real business needs is not a simple or direct endeavor. I have not personally witnessed BAs actually becoming part of an operational organization to gain business knowledge, though there are cases where the BA/PM staff reports up through the business as opposed to the IT team.  There is risk to be managed here in that best-in-class technology efforts require a mix of business acumen and technology excellence. Ability to understand the business without the technical expertise (or authority) to ensure you are building the best possible solution can create it&#039;s own set of problems.  

My personal experience has been to align with an operational leader who &quot;gets it&quot; and ensure I&#039;m communicating with him/her regularly.  Another strategy has been to job shadow, participate in business-user training, ask for demos...essentially anything I can do as a BA or technology leader to ensure I understand not just the ins and outs of the daily business processes, but why they are the way they are.  

I&#039;d be interested in hearing more about what about the SAP IT team in India: Did they take on operational responsibilities? How did they ensure IT excellence? And from a leadership perspective, did the mindset of their executive transform into a bit of a business-oriented CIO?  I would think this might evolve naturally from being responsible for IT staff.

Best,
Laura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is indeed an interesting way to create alignment between business and IT and a clear sign that ensuring technology solutions meet real business needs is not a simple or direct endeavor. I have not personally witnessed BAs actually becoming part of an operational organization to gain business knowledge, though there are cases where the BA/PM staff reports up through the business as opposed to the IT team.  There is risk to be managed here in that best-in-class technology efforts require a mix of business acumen and technology excellence. Ability to understand the business without the technical expertise (or authority) to ensure you are building the best possible solution can create it&#8217;s own set of problems.  </p>
<p>My personal experience has been to align with an operational leader who &#8220;gets it&#8221; and ensure I&#8217;m communicating with him/her regularly.  Another strategy has been to job shadow, participate in business-user training, ask for demos&#8230;essentially anything I can do as a BA or technology leader to ensure I understand not just the ins and outs of the daily business processes, but why they are the way they are.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing more about what about the SAP IT team in India: Did they take on operational responsibilities? How did they ensure IT excellence? And from a leadership perspective, did the mindset of their executive transform into a bit of a business-oriented CIO?  I would think this might evolve naturally from being responsible for IT staff.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Laura</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B Winans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B Winans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura -

I recently was in India and had opportunity to visit with a company that had recently migrated from Bahn to SAP. The IT leadership there did something brilliant, in my view ... they took their SAP experts and caused them to report directly to business line leaders so that IT could both develop the run-the-business knowledge of IT, and so SAP expertise could become well integrated in the daily conduct of business.

Pretty interesting step. AND it highlights a problem with today&#039;s IT people ... and BA&#039;s often are grouped into that crowd ... that BAs (and IT staff) often do not have business operational experience. What seems like a wonderful idea actually may have been conceived of elsewhere and abandoned because of some undocumented reason. 

Clearly this experience gap - together with the typical &quot;us and them&quot; relationship between IT and the rest of the business - sometimes makes it difficult to not be perceived as a &quot;Brilliant Ass&quot; (nice! ... :-)). Have you seen ways that BAs can actually become part of an organization and gain business knowledge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura -</p>
<p>I recently was in India and had opportunity to visit with a company that had recently migrated from Bahn to SAP. The IT leadership there did something brilliant, in my view &#8230; they took their SAP experts and caused them to report directly to business line leaders so that IT could both develop the run-the-business knowledge of IT, and so SAP expertise could become well integrated in the daily conduct of business.</p>
<p>Pretty interesting step. AND it highlights a problem with today&#8217;s IT people &#8230; and BA&#8217;s often are grouped into that crowd &#8230; that BAs (and IT staff) often do not have business operational experience. What seems like a wonderful idea actually may have been conceived of elsewhere and abandoned because of some undocumented reason. </p>
<p>Clearly this experience gap &#8211; together with the typical &#8220;us and them&#8221; relationship between IT and the rest of the business &#8211; sometimes makes it difficult to not be perceived as a &#8220;Brilliant Ass&#8221; (nice! &#8230; <img src='http://www.bridging-the-gap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). Have you seen ways that BAs can actually become part of an organization and gain business knowledge?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Brandau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Brandau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too funny, Dan.  Glad to hear I&#039;m not alone. I&#039;m sure we could create many witty re-interpretations of &quot;BA&quot;!  Might be a fun exercise sometime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too funny, Dan.  Glad to hear I&#8217;m not alone. I&#8217;m sure we could create many witty re-interpretations of &#8220;BA&#8221;!  Might be a fun exercise sometime!</p>
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